Hi Bruce,
Like you I am late in replying (family reasons have delayed me from participating in the discussions in the last few weeks, so I am playing catch-up!). I liked the example you gave about the performance artist in NY. It summarizes the discussions the group has had well.
I also agree with your earlier comments about the definition of Instructional Design (and the one you quoted from Wikipedia). Kyle's earlier comments were also interesting re: gathering information from and through cross-functional collaboration (SMEs, instructors, end uers/learners) - the importance of ensuring good representation from the key stakeholders as much as possible is critical - is important in ensuring a meaningful useful product at the end of the design process (i.e., the content and learning experience). The advantage to instructional design is that by designing or shaping the learning experience and content can direct the learner towards specific learning objectives. Part of the challenge is ensuring that the content is presented in a way that is meaningful (and makes sense) to the learner.
I've recently been working with learners who are in the trades who are often more hands-on and task oriented. This focus on hands-on presents interesting challenges for online learning. The introduction of flip learning - in this case using YouTube videos to teach basic knife skills to entry level cooks - has been successful. Intergrating online teaching and learning into more advanced trades training could be a challenge, however, as we try to replicate f2f training online.
Looking forward to further discussions!
Helena
Like you I am late in replying (family reasons have delayed me from participating in the discussions in the last few weeks, so I am playing catch-up!). I liked the example you gave about the performance artist in NY. It summarizes the discussions the group has had well.
I also agree with your earlier comments about the definition of Instructional Design (and the one you quoted from Wikipedia). Kyle's earlier comments were also interesting re: gathering information from and through cross-functional collaboration (SMEs, instructors, end uers/learners) - the importance of ensuring good representation from the key stakeholders as much as possible is critical - is important in ensuring a meaningful useful product at the end of the design process (i.e., the content and learning experience). The advantage to instructional design is that by designing or shaping the learning experience and content can direct the learner towards specific learning objectives. Part of the challenge is ensuring that the content is presented in a way that is meaningful (and makes sense) to the learner.
I've recently been working with learners who are in the trades who are often more hands-on and task oriented. This focus on hands-on presents interesting challenges for online learning. The introduction of flip learning - in this case using YouTube videos to teach basic knife skills to entry level cooks - has been successful. Intergrating online teaching and learning into more advanced trades training could be a challenge, however, as we try to replicate f2f training online.
Looking forward to further discussions!
Helena
We miss the moonwalking bear because we actually set with a 'particular' task: i.e. count the number of passes of the ball by the 'white team'. We are totally concentrating on the white team and not the black team.
A friend told me about a piece of art done in NY City years ago where on the stage a dog came out when the current rose and laid down. Everyone was trying to analyze what it meant by the dog sleeping on stage until some people got bored and started to leave. Behind them was a team of acrobats doing a whole show. The artist's message was that sometimes we concentrate too much on what we are told and not what is happening around us.
Bruce
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Authored by: Bruce Clark
Authored on: Oct 7, 2013 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: moonwalking bear - where?
HI Wanda,
I still have not seen the video with this moonwalking bear. So don't feel bad. I am taking a pretty heavy course load this term and started late this term because of a work placement I had. Can someone re-post the video link?
Thanks
Bruce Clark
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Authored by: Wanda Howard
Authored on: Sep 30, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject:
I watched the video and was amazed that I had missed the moonwalking bear. I re-watched it and noticed that it was just as easy to miss again if really focused on something else.
So for me, ID is being able to gather the information; sift through it; and provide clarity to enable the learner to focus on what it is that's required.
A friend told me about a piece of art done in NY City years ago where on the stage a dog came out when the current rose and laid down. Everyone was trying to analyze what it meant by the dog sleeping on stage until some people got bored and started to leave. Behind them was a team of acrobats doing a whole show. The artist's message was that sometimes we concentrate too much on what we are told and not what is happening around us.
Bruce
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Authored by: Bruce Clark
Authored on: Oct 7, 2013 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: moonwalking bear - where?
HI Wanda,
I still have not seen the video with this moonwalking bear. So don't feel bad. I am taking a pretty heavy course load this term and started late this term because of a work placement I had. Can someone re-post the video link?
Thanks
Bruce Clark
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Authored by: Wanda Howard
Authored on: Sep 30, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject:
I watched the video and was amazed that I had missed the moonwalking bear. I re-watched it and noticed that it was just as easy to miss again if really focused on something else.
So for me, ID is being able to gather the information; sift through it; and provide clarity to enable the learner to focus on what it is that's required.
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